Pirates/Braves Trade (Read 287 times)

[joecap]

Pirates send:
SP/RP Clayton Richard $1/1/$1
SP Scott Kazmir $15/4/$18
3B Mat Gamel $1/1/$2
LF/CF/RF Fernando Martinez $1/3/$2
Total $23

Braves send:
RP Ryan Franklin $7/2/$9
SP Dan Haren $10/2r/$12
LF/1B Luke Scott $1/1/$2
Total $23

[hawkeye5]

confirm

[Deleted]

you guys know each other well? nice take for the pirates...

[bosox]

funny,never heard any whining when you got span for nothing.

[Deleted]

Funny, my first reaction was to rag on this trade just to start some crap. But I now get my entertainment from reading A's/rangers blogs.

Looks like a lopsided trade but for an exceptional pitcher, Haren may be the worst second half pitcher in the league. I thought everyone knew that. Maybe not in Pittsburgh(only saying that beacuse of team name).

[Deleted]

i gave up 2 prospects for span (a 3-tool player).

not 2 overrated prospects and 2 below average pitchers for a top 15 SP, closer and guy with 20hr.

[Deleted]

When the guy who offers some of the funniest trades complains about a trade, just plain hilarious.. I have had plenty of laughs over them..c'mon A's seriously???

I have been laughed at for plenty of deals, plenty of guys I waived just for cash..and on and on over these seven years, and have traded with every single team here, everyone has their own opinion of their guys and other teams guys makes no sense to rip a trade

Happy to see active owners, and not just standing pat... TRADE ON!!!

[Deleted]

i have offered like 10 trades all year, fyi. but i dont trade good players for a handful of crap. im all for being active but not for handing a team in contention players. so blow me rangers.

[bosox]

does that mean if those offers you made that were always super heavy in your favour were accepted you have said,oops haha just kidding,no way i would feel right doing this?

i was just curious since you cannot deny you have done that many times.

[Deleted]

how many offers are sent out that get accepted on the first try? i dont expect a lot of offers that i send out to be accepted but expect a counter offer.

so by your rule of thumb if i offer barmes for pedroia and you get hammered one night and accept, the trade should go through? or at least be bashed for you being a drunken idiot.

[bosox]

if i did accept drunk or not are you saying you would not confirm it
knowing once you did it is a done deal?

or would you wait a day and ask again just to sure.

you would jump on it and grin from ear to ear.

there are offers to counter and offers to just shake your head at
wondering how drunk the guy is,and if we are pointing fingers at over indulgence in those cases it is nice to know you enjoy a few beers on a very regular basis, ;D

oh,btw,i have had lots of offers accepted first try,and also accepted first offers first try.

not everyone goes for the rip off first offer,some actually deal in good faith right off the bat.

[Deleted]

i respect your opinion, what are your thoughts on this trade? what did the braves gain from this deal?

barmes for pedroia is on the the table btw if you are interested. barmes has ss eligibility.

[bosox]

ya i know,you made that offer for real the day pedroia went down.

i think the pirates for right now won the deal,but the braves are in rebuild mode and aquired young talent some of which are expected to be good.

maybe they will and maybe they are bums,no way to know yet.

haren is famous for 2nd half collapses and whatever happened to kazmir who knows,but if he rights the ship,and is young enough to do so,can be a very good sp.

beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and deadline deals are usually young guys and prospects for proven talent,and not everyone agrees and on the talent level.

same as my crack about the span deal,you got a proven guy on a good team for what i deem lousy young guys,an sp on the worst team in baseball that so far has looked like a batting prctice sp and another guy i believe coming off tommy john and proved nothing before it.

however the phillies like them and deemed span expendable so he got what he thought was full value so what i think means squat.

the only ones that need to be happy are the two that make the deal,and they are both happy or it would not have been done.

[Deleted]

understood.

the deal sucks for those in contention. sour grapes i guess.

[bosox]

lol,if you would have seen the load i gave the brewers 2 years ago at deadline to get 2 guys you would have ripped me a new one for sure,lol.

and remember also,you got verlander for what at the time was nothing special but i needed to fill many injury spots last year.

i am sure a few wondered why i was dealing the top sp going at the time for a bunch of supporters.

damn,thats right i was all banged up then too,geez seems no matter what players i get they end up hurt.