Option year discussion (Read 1,516 times)

[Deleted]

Option years has passed. My proposal is we vote on three pieces

1. After one time option expires, can only be used once on a player, the players is..

a. an RFA owner can match
b. player is a ufa

2. Options awarded
a. each team gets one at $25 +base value for one year
b. play off teams get 1, non-playoff teams get two ($15 for first player, $25 for second or the single player)


please chime in so our votes reflect what is needed

[Yankees]

I think $15 is plenty. But if $15 player should be UFA the next year. I'm ok with the split for playoff and non playoff.

[Deleted]

I would say $15 is fine as well, but player would become a UFA at end of that contract. I would say they could also not be traded or waived once they received the tag to not further complicate things moving forward. You make the commitment you are stuck with them no matter what.

[lewjo]

If they are a UFA the following year, all teams have a chance to bid on him, including his prior team.

I agree with the Nationals: His value is constant for that entire season.

I would hope the player could be waived or traded - except his value stays at $15 (or $25).

I am flexible on the $15 amount.

One possible angle: if that player is in the top 25 per Yahoo end of season rankings (this season's rankings usually come out after RFA season starts), then his rate is $50.

(or $25 if he is in top 50)

Here are the current top 25 by the way
1. Mike Trout
2. Paul Goldschmidt
3. Bryce Harper
4. Clayton Kershaw
5. Josh Donaldson
6. Andrew McCutchen
7. Miguel Cabrera
8. Giancarlo Stanton
9. Manny Machado
10. Carlos Correa
11. Nolan Arenado
12. José Altuve
13. Kris Bryant
14. Anthony Rizzo
15. José Bautista
16. Mookie Betts
17. A.J. Pollock
18. Max Scherzer
19. José Abreu
20. Edwin Encarnación
21. Joey Votto
22. Dee Gordon
23. Charlie Blackmon
24. Starling Marte
25. Chris Sale

[lewjo]

I like Bobby's idea.

The price is last contract price plus $15, and he become a UFA after the season

The price is last contract price plus $25, and he become an RFA after the season

As much as the Rockies would love to hold onto Harper next year, it seems right he would cost 92 + 15 rather than just 15 (or even 25 or 50)

The value is constant (or set) for that year, even if waived or traded

One option for playoff teams, two options for non-playoff teams

[toby]

This is getting far too convoluted for a fantasy league...there should be a max contract of × years (5) and u pay extra to lock them up (just like now)...after 5 they become UFA and if u want them again...you pay...this would emulate the pros...no ridiculous top "25" rules..imagine MLB having crazy rule like that....lets keep this simple...

[Deleted]

thanks toby, option rules were agreed upon though so we have to work through something

I say playoff teams get one, non playoff two. If you pay $15, they are UFA after that season, $25 they are RFA, this is plus base rate

lots see some more thoughts and we can post for voting

[Deleted]

I like the 15/25 on top of base salary. This allows a team that may have made a push last year hold onto a guy for 1 more year without paying a pretty penny for him. It also allows a team to look ahead and see when would be a good time to let their guy go into UFA based on how many studs are going to be in RFA in a given year.

[JimB (as in Brewers)]

Feb 23, 2016 14:02:22 GMT -8 toby said:

This is getting far too convoluted for a fantasy league...there should be a max contract of × years (5) and u pay extra to lock them up (just like now)...after 5 they become UFA and if u want them again...you pay...this would emulate the pros...no ridiculous top "25" rules..imagine MLB having crazy rule like that....lets keep this simple...

I agree Toby ... unfortunately we were/are in the minority. At this point in time I/we can only hope that whatever new rules are implemented relative to this new wrinkle are not overly cumbersome or burdensome. Keep it simple, consistent and fun ...

[Bobby]

"Option" players will have to be designated prior to RFA bidding as they would not be going thru RFA bidding that year.

Once designated as your "option" player, it should be locked. (Probably a week before RFA begins.)

Say we adopt that teams are limited to one or two said option players. The number of "option" players a team may have on his roster should not change during the season. We don't want a team to acquire several "option" players.

Examples: If I have one (and allowed just one), then I cannot add another "option" player through trade unless I am or have already traded my "option" player. If I never designated one, then I can get one in trade.

[Giants]

I'm not a fan of this but if we're going to do it, it needs to be simple. Each team gets one "tag" which is 15+ base. Player becomes a UFA next year. It's optional to apply the tag.

[Giants]

However the more I think about it, the more I agree with the others. This is making things too complicated.

[Deleted]

doesn't have to be complicated allows teams to keep 1-2 players one more year rather than be exposed in rfa

[Deleted]

I don't think it's complicated. Easy to track and easy to enforce the rules around it. If an owner doesn't want to apply a tag they don't have to.

[Deleted]

Everyone agree we should vote on the following?

How many?
a-one options for all
b.-one option for playoff, two for non-playoff

Cost for option
a- $15 + base
b- $25 + base

UFA or RFA
a- players is a ufa after option
b- player is an rfa after option

as commish I think this would be easiest to track and manage, gives a slight advantage to teams trying to get better by holding onto players and not losing them to gigantic rfa bids..